. >> four years from now. >> four years from now. we talked about structural in the economy, we're also going to talk about structural within the agencies. eight years of lisa jackson at the epa is something to be really concerned about. eight years of this nlrb, we could be reunionizing the whole country and somebody would write a bill says you can't have right to work. >> say romney wins, how quickly, in your estimation, do things turn around? what happens? what is the shift? to the extent, can you impact any of this? >> that's the caveat i was going to give you. >> i think whoever is elected president in a month from now, they will have to do major, major stuff. obviously you got two different ideologies, and i think if romney were elected, he's going to have to do major stuff, absorb major pain, but hopefully create a base from which the country can grow again. i don't think increasing meld i care is going to increase the growth rate of the country, and create more jobs, as an example. >> flip it around. if you take some of those